Shaolin Round Table

yeh. I 'm not sure about the brick. It's amazing what you can do with a camera these days .

That last guy was good, Wally. I like the other one better, I think. I once trained in zengzhou with a shaoliin monk on the national wushu team. they're not bad...

I might be overcritical, but does he have something going on with his shoulder rom by any chance?? ..? just on one angle at about 340 - 20 degrees it looks like he's restricted. He also looks tired iand .. a bit .. jingedly disconnected in parts, if that's a word. It's not 'master' smooth per say though is it kinda butchered imo. I think he's probably overtrained, overworked and underfed and underpaid maybe. I'm pretty sure I've been wrong before though. .


I lovve strong crisp looking pretty free-jing-flow forms. reeal nice stuff. I know . I 'm a suka like that. .


Do any of youu guys or your schools play wushu? I'm loving that atm! .


Blooming tianshi lotus.

yeah, he does get a little tired at the end. He's good, but I was just showing how much the form has changed, the trend seems to be to do less "form" and more standing and crazy kicking.

I dont really catch much competitive wushu anymore. I'll have to re-explore what's current with it, I think. I dont think we even have a wushu school in our entire phonebook here. On which side do the judges score by what you were describing? Do you know? or does it change pending where it is and who's judging? I think they're both potentially pretty fair representations, pending condition and proficiency, yes? What looks really sloppy or unskilled or even weak or frenetic and uncontrolled or whatever could be only a really few small condition or skill tweaks away from some very good kungfu. it's funny like that . that's what I see when I watch anyway.
I'm not joking when I say that it's catching my eye lately though.

It seems like loads of figurehead shaolin ppl are migrating toward wushu these days. What is that do we think, speaking of the political state of shaolin atm?

Something sus is definately going on and has been for a littttle wee while I think. time will tell everything though.

I like it and've planned for yrs to try out and tune some stuff by it anyway, so I'm not sure I really mind the shift, but , you know. I'm seeing it from some pretty unexpected places recently.
exciting, yeh?

Blooming tianshi lotus.

I think wushu judging is much less subjective then a "traditional" kung fu tournament would be, as their forms are "compulsory"; everyone does the same form. The last video I posted I think is the old compulsory nanquan form, but compare it with the new form, much different. the old one had some jump kicks but they at least flowed in the form. the new videos, the guys did a couple moves and stood on one leg and then did some crazy jumps. It lacked almost any semblance of southern style. This is the trend I am speaking of.

I took a few wushu classes when i was in college, the coach used to be on the shanghai wushu team. I never really learned any forms, and the part of one i did learn, i forgot. I'm sure i could pick it up again if i saw a video. I do remember the jump kicks, took me a awhile to get them, and i don't practice them much/at all, luckily, they're like riding a bike, once you get a feel for landing you can pretty much always do it.

I've always really liked this guys nanchuan! i think i have him on "dragon's of the orient" or somethin, but he's great!

Okay. I think i'm catching onto what you're getting at.

Those falls are pretty impressive though. that last clip that mysteri quoted was pretty cutely animated at the start, but here's another one from the 9 th world wushu something or other that I think is quite cool too. I think it may 've been from last yr, but he's pretty dynamic aerially and ii can see some sthn enough influence in his performance to be identifiable, but if it iis from last yr.. I have to wonder what a judge is really going for.. even wiith your explaination.

I could probably be a little slow like that .

this one is great though. world class wushu entertainment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhR0cEt1 ... re=related

the falls in this remind me of being alone late late in the dead of night in a dingy but tall chinese hotel in some poor chinese burbia or other eying off the distance out my window to the ground because ppl were outside my door and a rucus was climaxing attention in my direction that I wasn't real sure of. .


so anyway, as it turns out, they just got busted for having me there as a westerner and were in trouble with the police who ended taking me somewhere else nice, but, I do get the value of it being in there.. gotto lol . . :/. .

this guy is real entertaining though..

do you know when this comp was?

Blooming tianshi lotus.

While we're talking about it, ..how is it exactly that taichi qualifies as wushu in international competition and how does thaat relate to the differences we see in the videos posted up there?



http://www.taichiaustralia.com.au/index ... mpionships

My Sigung who judges and is president and a member of all sorts of international martial federations, particularly for comps world wide was telling me about that once and advertises that hee teaches wushu. In other countries they're calling taichi wushu aswell.

something to think about anyway.. over a goood taichi session maybe . .

who'd 've guessed I'd been training wushu already all this time? I think i like the sounds of this .

Blooming tianshi lotus.

The way my sifu explained it to me once was that it boils down to semantics and usage. The term wushu nowadays refers to contemporary wushu
such as the standardized, acrobatic routines we are used to seeing. But traditionally wushu and kuoshu meant martial art and/or national art. Wushu
was traditionally a much broader term that covered all forms of gung fu. Now it is associated with only the contemporary aspect mainly by us
foreigners. However I believe in China they would still consider "traditional" sets wushu.

wushu is mandarin, and literally translated it means "martial art". hence taiji is wushu, but it's not contemporary wushu. MMA is also wushu

Ooh. "natural" ( freeform) wuushu. lol . I get that.

yeh. I spent the best part of 4 yrs travelling in china, so I got that, but looking at that link, I was still surprised to see taji in there in the world wushu competition for some reason. I 've heard it mentioned only as that from other countries, but , i always thought wushu to be more dynamic contemporary aswell. I think that's very cool though. verry cool . .

also "they" (in this case the people's party) ordered that taiji be standardized as well. the 24-form (and 48) falls under the category of modern wushu, while chen/wu/yang/etc... are wushu in the broader sense.

Wow. This is all reeal great information. Exxxcellent thread! .

I think I might try to find some videos of some taichi from the world wushu comps to check those out next to each other.

Very cool. .

Can anyone help me out by any chance?

While I am not a Wushu enthusiast by any means, the speed and athleticism shown in those videos are impressive. A couple of the performers were fairly precise so hats off those skills too. I guess I'm just partial to Jow Ga - go figure

True dat!!